Exercise statement
Prove Proposition 4.2.9.
Proposition 4.2.9 (Basic properties of order on the rationals). Let be rational numbers. Then the following properties hold.
(a) (Order trichotomy) Exactly one of the three statements ,
, or
is true.
(b) (Order is anti-symmetric) One has if and only if
.
(c) (Order is transitive) If and
, then
.
(d) (Addition preserves order) If , then
.
(e) (Positive multiplication preserves order) If and
is positive, then
.
Hints
None.
How to think about the exercise
I want to say a few things about the definition of order on the rationals, and compare this definition to the definitions for the natural numbers and integers. None of what I say will be directly relevant to this exercise, but I think this is probably the best place to say these things (as opposed to saying these things in a post about a different exercise).
You might be wondering why the definition of order for the rationals is so different from the definitions for naturals and integers. A few things you might notice:
- For rationals, the strict inequality
is taken to be fundamental, whereas in the naturals and integers, the non-strict inequality
is fundamental. By “fundamental”, I just mean that it’s the thing that’s defined in a “novel” way, rather than the one that’s defined by including or excluding the case of equality.
- For rationals, order is defined using subtraction and with respect to positive and negative numbers, whereas for naturals and integers, it’s defined via addition by saying
iff
for some natural number
.
For (1), mathematically this turns out to not be a very important distinction. We could have defined order on naturals and integers as follows: iff
for a positive natural number
; indeed, this is exactly what Proposition 2.2.12(f) is about. Then we could have defined
to mean
or
. Similarly, we could have defined order on rationals by saying that
iff
is either zero or negative. Then we could have defined
to mean
and
.
So if there is an important distinction, I think it would have to be psychological (i.e. pedagogical). And here I’m not sure why Tao chose these particular definitions. The definition for rationals is slightly cleaner if one uses strict inequality, because otherwise one must include the “or zero” condition. And I think (but I’m not sure) that proving some of the results for natural numbers is easier if order is defined using non-strict inequality.
Moving onto (2), we have the “positive” concept for natural numbers, but we don’t have subtraction. So we can’t say iff
is positive. But saying
for some positive number
is like saying
for some positive number
, so we are doing something similar even in the natural numbers case. For integers, we do have subtraction, so we indeed could have said that
iff
is negative, and
iff
is positive. This is actually precisely what Lemma 4.1.11(a) is about.
What about the other way around? For rationals, could we have defined to mean that
for some positive
? As long as we allow
to be rational (rather than just a positive integer), then I think this would work.
So to summarize, for (2), we could have defined order for the integers and rationals in whatever way we like, but for natural numbers we are restricted to not being able to use subtraction. I’m not sure why Tao decided to define order for the integers one way and for the rationals a different way.
Another question you might have is, how does the list of properties of order compare to the ones given in Lemma 4.1.11 and Proposition 2.2.12? Looking at Lemma 4.1.11, we see that its (a) is part of the definition of order for rationals (so we don’t need to prove it), its (b) we have, its (c) we have, its (d) appears in Exercise 4.2.6, its (e) we have, and its (f) we have. Lemma 4.1.11 doesn’t have anti-symmetry, but that’s actually part of the definition of order for integers.
Looking at Proposition 2.2.12, we see that its (a) follows trivially from the reflexivity of equality, its (b) we have (after some rewriting to deal with cases), its (c) we have (again after some rewriting), its (d) we have, its (e) we don’t have (but that doesn’t matter, since the notion of successor does not really matter for rationals), and its (f) we have (as long as we allow to be rational). Proposition 2.2.12 doesn’t have trichotomy (because there are no negative natural numbers), and for some reason Tao decided not to include the positive multiplication result (I’m not sure why).
Model solution
(a) Consider the number . By Lemma 4.2.7, this number is exactly one of zero, positive, or negative. But
iff
;
is positive iff
; and
is negative iff
. So each possibility in the order trichotomy corresponds to some possibility in the trichotomy of rationals. (If this reasoning makes you uncomfortable, you can also do this in the usual way, by first showing that at least one of the statements is true, and then showing that at most one of the statements is true. This would again make use of Lemma 4.2.7 extensively.)
(b) Suppose . By definition of order, this means that
is negative, i.e.
for some positive integers
and
. Thus
is a positive number. By definition of order, this means
as required.
The other direction is proved in the same way.
(c) Suppose and
. Thus
and
are negative, which means that
and
for some positive integers
. But now
By Lemma 2.3.3 ,
, and
are all positive, and by Proposition 2.2.8
is positive. This means that
is a negative rational, so
as required.
(d) Suppose , so that
is a negative number. But
, so
.
(e) Suppose and
is positive. Then
is negative. We thus have
and
for positive integers
. But now
. Since
and
are positive by Lemma 2.3.3, we see that
is negative. Thus
as required.




